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we decided the next.2012/07/02



advですが突っ込みどころ満載なので相手を追い込むべく質問メールを投げてる最中。
5日くらい音沙汰なしですが^^;


ところで前回の記事の続きです。

s5→?ということで第1候補に上がっているevoque。

おさらいするとevoqueの車高は1635mmでコレがうちの機械式駐車場に入るかどうか。。。
機械式駐車場上段の規定は車高1550mmまでです。

気になって仕方なかった私は先週は毎夜メジャーを持ってコソコソ駐車場に行っては計測。
下から測ったところ。。。

テーブルが上段にある状態で天井まで1780mm
結構余裕あんじゃん♪

で横切るパイプの出っ張りが約100mm
差し引き約1680mmの余裕ということで物理的に上段でも納まりそう^^

となれば早速Dへgo→^^
実際にevoqueを入れてみようということに。

一昨日実車を持ってきてもらいました(画像まったく無しです)。
が、試乗車は3ドアクーペのだったので5ドアより30mm低い仕様です。

まずは念のため私だけがテーブルに乗り上段位置から天井までの実際の余裕を再度確認。

実際横切るパイプが前後に2本あってボンネットあたりにくる前のパイプを測ると1640mm?!
かぁなりギリ^^;

で後ろのパイプで測ると1680mmとこちらは予想通りの数値でした^^

テーブルはチェーンで引っ張り上げられるためキッチリ水平が保たれていないんでしょうな。
まあ前のパイプは絶対に当たらない位置にあるので無視してokでしょうってことで
実際にevoqueを入れてみることに。

D担当者もクルマと一緒にテーブルに乗り上がっていきます。
下から見てるともう天井に当たりそうでドキドキです^^;

結果としては後ろのパイプとルーフの隙間で約140mmありまったく問題無しでした。
5ドア入れても100mmくらいは余裕がありそうです。

結局evoqueはリアに行くほどルーフがスラントしているので
こんなにも余裕が生まれたのでしょう。

ということで今週オーダー入れてきます^^

ところでマンション駐車場でのevoqueの注目度はカナリのものでした。




adv.1's quality.2012/07/10




adv、今だやりあってますが今日jordanからこんなメールが来ました。

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Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2012 21:38:34 -0400

nano42,

If you'd prefer to send them back you may do so, we can then list on our
inventory section and credit you in the amount they sell for once they do
sell.  If that’s ok let me know, I'm sorry.

Jordan
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ヤツの英語すごい訳しにくいんですが^^;

どうやらホイールを送り返してくれたら、自分達が中古ホイールとして売って
その代金を私に返却する、といった内容のようです。
今そういう意味なのかって再度確認中なんですが、、、

もうね、アホかと。
完全ナメられてるわ^^;
売る気なんかないくせによぉ!

コレで私から手抜きの証拠取り上げて売れませんでした、はい終了~~チャンチャンって?


2012.7.11追記====================

jordanから返信来ました。

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Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 22:23:40 -0400

If you want us to we can after rebuilding them / refurbishing if passed
through qc.

J

もし君が私達に売ってもらいたいなら、QC通れば磨いて組み直したあとそうするよ。
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まずQC通るワケないし、通したら問題だろ!
つか「もし君が私達に売ってもらいたいなら。。。」ってどんだけ上目線なん。
まったく望んでねって!!

もちろんキッパリ断りました。
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ところでフォーラムに書き込む文章を作りました。
かなり長文です~~すみません^^;

英語のできる方、内容や文章の流れ、文法についてダメ出し等ご意見をお願いします。

あと目を引くタイトルについても、いいアイディアがあったらお願いします!

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This is the ADV.1 quality...

I want you guys to know about the ADV.1's quality.
If you are interested in the ADV.1 3-piece wheels, want to get them or have been using them, please read this. 

At first, see the photo below.


This is the center disc of my wheel that is 21" ADV.1 ADV7 TrackSpec for my Audi RS6 Avant(C6).

We can see many holes on the flange.

<details>
Mar. 2010: I ordered 21" ADV.1 ADV7 Deep Concave through
                  Wheels Boutique.
Sep. 2010: I got the wheels (PO1291), but the wrong offset was found,
                  so they were returned to ADV.1
Oct. 2010: I got the corrected wheel set, but the vibration appeared,
                 so the wheels were returned to ADV.1 again.
Mar. 2011: I got the corrected wheel set, but the vibration appeared again,
                  and the wrong center bore was found.
                  The wheels were returned to ADV.1 again.
Jun. 2011: I got the corrected wheel set (PO1291W2),
                  but the wrong offset and wrong center bore were found again.
                  I requested a refund.
                  Jordan offered a free second wheel set by using a warranty.
                  I ordered 21" ADV7 Track Spec.
Nor. 2011: I got the second wheel set (PO2298W), and...

I had gotten the vibration on the speed more than 75 mph again and thought that tires were not good, so they were changed from
the Pirelli P-Zero Neros to the new Bridgestone Potenza RE050s,
but the vibration have not stopped yet.

Next, I doubted that the wheels might have some problems.
Normally, I should return the wheels to ADV.1 without taking them apart, but I am in Japan and did not want to take a time to reassemble them,
so they were taken apart to reassemble here in Japan.
At the time, I found many holes which were cut on the flange of the center disc.

This is a big problem! 

Actually two rear wheels have the added holes.

                       the right side

                       the left side

When we compare the right center disc with the left one,
the added holes are cut the different position between the right and the left ones.


See the photo above.
It is too close between holes, and the flange may crack when fasteners are tightened up.
I am really worry about the safty and the strength of this wheel set.
These wheels will not be able to support the RS6 which has the 580hp and the heavy weight 4800lbs.
When I imagine that I drive my car which is installed the wheels with my family, I get just scared...


This is Jordan's comment.
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Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 09:35:45 -0400
ADV.1 Jordan wrote:

There's no need for us to inspect the wheels again as they were inspected
upon QC prior to assembly and packaging. The 80 hole drill process on the
assembly flange is used often times for weight reduction / valve stem hole
alignment should the rotation of the center disc be slightly off from the
pre-drilled hole on the lip.  Normally for weight savings we do this a
little differently as shown attached however on the 80 hole alignment it's
exactly like this.  The reason this was done on your file is only because
the drill programming was an existing file from a previous order.

This does not in any way affect your wheels balance, strength or any other
negative factor.

Jordan

ADV.1 | Advance One Wheels, Inc.

Jordan Swerdloff

President

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Jordan has never explained logically why my wheels here do not have problem of the safety and the strength.

He just explains the flange pocketing in this mail,
but I have never ordered to cut pockets or added holes on the flange of center discs.

Addition, He explains the previus drill programming.

> The reason this was done on your file is only because
> the drill programming was an existing file from a previous order.

The previus order is ADV7 Deep Concave (PO1291 or PO1291W2).
The latest order is ADV7 TrackSpeck (PO2298W).

This is definitely ADV.1's failure.
ADV.1 has been unable to manage customers' orders, so they made a blunder to input the drill programming.
They have admited that they do not have the abilities in a customer management, a production management and a quality control.
 
My wheel set here is an inferior product which was made by ADV.1's blunder.

I have requested a refund, but Jordan has insisted that my wheel set here has no problem.

I'd like to ask you guys on this forum.

Do you think this wheel set is a quality product?
Could you pay $8000 for this wheel set?
Could you drive your car which is installed this wheel set with your family?

Thank you for reading this long story.

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こんな感じでいこうと思ってます。



This is ADV.1's quality...2012/07/12



先ほどLuxury4PlayM3Postに書き込みました。

L4Pはadvのホームなので消されるかもしれませんが早速いい反応が!

どうやら表に出てこないだけで、むこうでも普通にフレの問題が出てるみたいです。
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M3の方はアンチadvが多いので炎上したらいいなぁ。

今の時間(17:45)はむこうの西が夜中1時に東が4時なので
多くの人に読まれるのはもう少し後になりそうです。